Interview With Jim Litchfield, Part I

For those of you who don’t know, Jim Litchfield was one of the main forces behind the creation of Reno’s downtown whitewater park at Wingfield Park. Jim is the owner of Fluid Concepts and president of the Truckee River Foundation, and also serves on Reno’s Citizen Advisory Committee and as the designer of the whitewater park, played a huge role in Reno’s downtown revitalization. Maybe I need to try and get on the committee? Anyway, on with the interview:
MTM: Jim, did you make it to the meeting last Wednesday?
I did. I think that the priority projects are awesome. I am still out on the canopy but the idea of converting the post office is amazing. That could be a really great project.
MTM: I agree–we need more retail (shopping and dining) near that part of the river. What do you think of the planned extension of the whitewater park and the eco-channel in terms of engineering, planning, aesthetics, and how it will effect the community?
I think that extending the whitewater park would be great. Any opportunity to create better access and ways for the community to interact with the river is a benefit. I don’t know much about the proposed Eco-Channel. Recreational projects, in my opinion, should maximize the ability to participate in the experience and minimize the passive observation type experience. Kids like to play, get wet and be involved. That interaction then translates into more for the passive bystander to observe. However by creating that participatory experience a project must also be as inclusive and accessible as possible to provide a safe and reproducible experience. I think that in lieu of additional channel modifications a pedestrian path that go under the bridges and improved bank access should be prioritized.
MTM: Are you involved in the extension in any way?
Not currently but the Mayor did ask for the City to consult with me.
MTM: I saw that. Despite what many people think, Reno is a well run city, and I’ve always said that we are lucky to have Charles McNeely as well as people like you, who clearly love Reno, have a vision, and are responsible for getting some of these projects completed. What is your impression of his new hire Mark Lewis, the new Director of the Redevelopment Agency?
I am very excited about Mark Lewis. His reputation is that he is aggressive and results focused. He was introduced to the Citizens Advisory Committee (I am a member) and he seems to be the best administrator for the RDA since I have followed it. It will be interesting to see how his relationship with Charles evolves.
As a heads up the Citizens Advisory Council is having a special meeting on Thursday to consider the issue of restoration or replacement of the Virginia Street Bridge.
MTM: I spend a lot of time at the whitewater park, in fact I think of it as my front years. Along with the fun stuff I do there, I find myself instructing swimmers on how to share the waves, picking up garbage, and generally keeping an eye on it. Do you find that others have that feeling of ownership of the park?
This is a very interesting topic for me. I strongly believe that the community has taken some ownership in the park. I believe this is, in part, because they were able to be so close during the construction, that the construction was relatively quick, and that immediately they were able to interact with the improvements. I look at the graffiti issue downtown and observe that not one rock has been painted or marked upon while every wall and sign has been tagged numerous times. Those large rock faces would be a target unless the taggers in some way take ownership and or pride in the park. It may be a bit PollyAnna of me, but I have given it some thought. I would be interested in your thoughts on that one.
MTM: My thoughts you say? I honestly never noticed the graffiti before, but the river and the whitewater park are what initially attracted me to downtown. I was casually interested in buying a place down here when I moved to Reno in the spring of 2003. At that time, the only big event going on downtown was Artown, and it was clear that most people thought Artown was the only reason to come down here. It was during the first Reno River Festival that I made up my mind to live in Park Towers if I could, because I saw the potential of downtown thanks to the success of that festival. It was clear to me that the new interest in the river and the RiverWalk was going to transform downtown Reno–hopefully sooner rather than later. And it didn’t happen immediately, the number of people coming downtown has steadily increased since that time. When you visit the whitewater park now, otherwise known as Reno’s swimming hole, what do you notice and how do you feel?
I think that it’s obvious that if a project makes good use of the participatory experience it will be successful. That interaction creates energy and people like to be around energetic things. I do worry about the safety of the kids though. I dread the day a child drowns in the Park. There have been a few drownings in Colorado at Whitewater Parks. But in those occurrences each one was a result of a child not wearing a life vest.
I am president of the Truckee River Foundation and we are working with Assemblywoman Francis Allen to amend a current bill (AB13) to make it a requirement that anyone renting equipment must be provided a PFD (personal flotation device) by the livery or concessionaire. I am testifying in committee on Wednesday. The picture above is one that shows a lot of equipment that was rented at the Park from private businesses. The legislation would require that the businesses provide PFDs to each one of those kids.
MTM: That’s great news. In July of last year, I actually helped rescue a young woman who fell out of her boat while rafting with friends on the river. She did not have on a PFD, and although she knew how to swim, she could not stop herself from being swept away with the strong current. And because the water was so cold, even when she did get a hold of a rock just east of the Virginia Street bridge, it was very hard for her to hang on as she was waiting to be rescued. That was in July when the river flow is much lower than it is in the spring. It was very scary. I’m glad to hear about the new legislation–its sure to save somebody’s life.
Stay tuned for some more conversation with Jim Litchfield tomorrow (hopefully). I asked him a few more questions about the proposed eco-channel and the plans for the plaza at 1o N. Virginia (the canopy will of course be addressed) and the old post office.
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I generally agree with your opinion but you are way off on Charles McNeely. He has been on a massive land grab mission for revenue purposes which has destroyed trails, scenic view etc. Their land grab - annexations - over the past years is unbelievable. If they approve the annexation of Peavine and the Virginia highlands, we will know that their recent ‘Open Space Plan’ is lip service.
The Kings Inn needs to come down.
Hello! You may be right–I am focused on downtown so I don’t tend to notice some of the other things that go on. However, do the annexations mean that the land will be developed? I know one of their motivations is to increase property tax revenues because the recent cap is negatively affecting the city budget. At least I think that’s right.
Tobie: Someone is supposed to develop it into DeNovo. However, not much has happened in the last few months. I wouldnt be surprised if that project has slowed way down.
Hello, could you please be more specific on what trails have been destroyed, scenic views lost, etc.? I believe the City of Reno has created more open space, more trails & more parks in the past 10 years than in the history of Washoe County. I am biased but I have an open mind and that is why I crave specifics on general rants.
It may be interesting to note that the Washoe County Commission approved Arrowcreek, Damonte Ranch, Double Diamond, and a lot of the Spanish Springs development. We inherited the planning.
I agree with Myrna, Charles has been a wonderful addition to the City. As the City Manager he has been charged with finding the funding for all of the projects in Reno over the past 10 years.
Also, Myrna, the funding for the whitewater park was interesting as it originally had it’s roots with TMWA and got bridge funds from Harrahs and the Eldorado and the City of Reno. And it all goes back to the 1997 flood…….
I suspect that we’ll look back twenty years from now at the whitewater park and recognize it as the catalyst of Reno accepting it’s “adventure destination” brand positioning and a positive attitude towards downtown redevelopment.
It seems that the uptake in private and public investment in downtown was timed to the whitewater park completion.
Myrna, thanks for the great read. Jim, thanks for the vision. Can you extend that vision all the way thru Sparks and on out to Pyramid Lake? What about a barbless catch-and-release flyfishing park mixed in there, too?
Dave,
Thanks to you and the entire council for your forward thinking on the importance of revitalizing the Truckee River channel and implementing ReTrac to tuning around downtown.
Great Work, and your new “Priority List” will only make it better. Bravo!
Dave - The trail systems I’m talking about are in Somersett and Juniper Ridge. Trail access (non paved trails) in Somersett plan are extremely difficult to find if they exist at all. Same thing with the Juniper Ridge trail access. Houses in Somersett are now visible from I80 when the original plan was that they would not be visible.
Myrna - Reno has been on an annexation tear for the past 5-10 years. They are picking up areas in outlying districts with zoning of 1-40 houses per acre and developing the projects into 3 houses per acre. This has created a lot of property tax revenue. Right now they’re considering a property called Winnemucca Ranch which is not even close to Reno. What’s next? Winnemucca itself? It’s revenue driven and reminds me of Bush’s spending. Our grandchildren will pay for it - i.e. we need the money now and we’ll let our grandchildren figure out where the water will come from when wells run dry.
Oops - made a mistake in my last post. Should be zoning is being changed from 1 house per acre to 1 house per 40 acres into 3 houses per acre
Great interview Myrna! I’ll link to it from my site.
On a sidenote, how coudl you not notice the graffiti? Graffiti hasnt affected the central core too much, but just outside, like around the South Virginia/Liberty area or further up north toward UNR, Graffiti is running rampant. Last week, Arterra’s sign was graffiti’d and left that way for days (just recently it was replaced), as well as the Waterfrton Towers Making it Great signs.
The City is working hard to stem this problem though….Dave, do you know if the Legislature passed those stiffer graffiti penalties?
Dave, I have a few comments and a question regarding the 10 North parcel.
I attended last Wednesday afternoon’s redevelopment meeting and have been pondering the proceedings for a few days.
The council spent a significant amount of time trying to “picture” exactly how the plaza will be used when it is not in “skating rink” mode. Will it be used for musical performances - and if so, what kind? Council seemed to agree that “major performances” would not take place because offsetting the high cost of attracting big-time performers would require selling tickets and the open nature of the property would not work for controlling entry. For “mid-level” performances, questions were raised about not wanting to “duplicate” what takes place at the Wingfield Park stage. On the “what use question”, a speaker (not sure of her name) came before the council and indicated that the original concept for the plaza was to make it a sort of “town square” where those who live and work downtown can gather and mingle - NOT as a performance venue.
As I mulled those thoughts the last few days, I came up with this.
One of the sticking points for the (many) REA “building proposals” seemed to always be the city use of the ground level for an low cost ice rink service facility. Parks and Rec obviously needs a facility and seasonal staff to manage the ice rink. But, for three seasons of the year, that PRIME RETAIL SPACE that COULD BECOME THE HEART of the “town square” concept “might” largely sit idle.
Consider this thought. What if the retail developer is allowed to seek quality retail for the ground floor that is consistent with using the plaza during the spring thru fall as a gathering place - perhaps Coffee, Ice Cream and and/or sandwich shops. Then, what if parks and rec installs seasonal tables and benches on the covered portion of the plaza to allow folks to sit, eat, chat and just enjoy the plaza. And, on one end, they might install a small raised platform with just power - and maybe some minimal speaker wiring - to allow a single musician or small group to provide occasional music.
This would seem to make the plaza consistent with the original “town square” concept.
But, where could the seasonal rink support be located?
It could continue to be in a temporary trailer, perhaps parked on the south edge of the plaza backed up to the river.
Or, might it possibly be built into the southern row of parking spaces in the Cal Neva garage with new sidewalk access steps from the First St sidewalk? I don’t know if a temporary modular building or trailer could be backed up the Center st exit ramp and into the garage or if a permanent building addition would be needed, but this space is directly across first st from the rink and would seem to be a perfect place for that kind of support function.
Small restaurants and shops on the bottom floor with a nice restaurant like the earlier Garwoods group proposal above would seem to make 10 North into exactly the kind of town square gathering place that was originally intended.
Does this make any sense or am I overlooking some important aspect of the 10 North plan?
Hello,
Regarding Somersett, the houses you see are NOT a part of Somersett but a project between Mogul and Somersett and were approved by the County. Commissioner Galloway had the same concerns and put it on the Commission agenda and could have had breakfast with the egg on his face when he found out that he had actually approved those houses. On the parks and trails in Somersett I met with bicyclists, hikers, four wheel drive groups, wildlife groups, NDOW, etc before the last change to Somersett. They all came to an agreement as to where the trails would go, what kind they would be (paved, not paved, etc) and signed a document attesting to their agreement. I took this agreement to Blake Smith (the evil developer) and even though it meant he had to remove houses, change routes, he agreed and the trails are there. If you can’t find them that’s something I can do as I recall that part of the motion was that the City would be responsible for signage and if we haven’t done a good job, well that’s on us.
Regarding Juniper Ridge you’ll have to be more specific because if I am thinking about the area, again, that is in unincorporated Washoe County NOT in the City.
I’m not dodging the issue just hopefully clearing up a few misconceptions. I can change what we control, but I can’t do anything in the unincorporated County.
Steve,
These are all very good comments. You may also know that because of the issues, we formed a sub-committee to look at both 10 N Va and the Truckee River. That committee is tentatively scheduled to meet Monday the 19th at 4:00. It is (of course) a public meeting.
In my opinion the problem with REA was that they agreed to one thing and kept trying to change the deal. Originally, we “got cheap rent” because the taxpayers were going to “give” the property to REA. We were paying it forward. Later the developer wanted us to give the land AND pay market rent. I had agreed to pay market rent if he paid the market rate for the land. He agreed to that just last year. Then when the appraisal came in over a million dollars he started backing off (again).
It might be interesting to note that your ideas are probably more tied in with the fate of the Virginia Street Bridge than the building on the east side.
Dave, I absolutely love the Post Office conversion concept with its wonderful proposed connection down to the river. It will be terrific.
But, the 10 North plaza across the river is equally important. And, if it also contains a lot of pedestrian friendly restaurant amenities it would seem to help it create some of the original “town plaza” concept. If the rink is temporary, why not the support facility as well? Particularly if the current support trailer could be brought in from Center St and would fit in the wide spot south of the rink (on the rink parcel, not the building parcel) and could be moved in and out at the same time as the rink walls and rubber flooring? I would think that the new developer would pay significantly more for the new parcel if he thought he could attract high paying restaurants that could have “free use” of a nice public outdoor dining area.
I would personally be spending a lot more time on that new “town square” if it was adjacent to morning breakfast/coffee and afternoon lunch providers - and so would city staff, I suspect
And, who knows, the various restaurant operators might band together and finance quite a bit of outdoor music to pull it all together.
Dave,
After re-reading your post, I think I may have completely misconstrued your “fate of the Virginia Street Bridge” comment.
I jumped to the conclusion that you meant that if the bridge is repaired (by spending $40 million) that the Post Office access to the river might not be done - because of the necessity (I assumed) of having to build the big undergroud storm diversion piping system - so then more restaurant/retail might be needed on the 10 North plaza.
But, after re-reading, I realized that my assumption could be completely wrong. What was the intended meaning of your “fate of the Virginia Street Bridge” comment?
Or do I need to go to the meeting on the 19th to find out
BTW, for what my opinion of one is worth, I think replacing rather than repairing the bridge is a no-brainer. Because, even if the extra $30 million is spent, that center support of the old bridge WILL STILL tend to dam up with trapped debris and necessitate the use of big equipment to clear the jam every time we have high water conditions.
Please, build a nice new and well designed - retro looking if you wish - bridge that both accomodates high water conditions conditions and allows expanded recreational access to the river.
Then, create a small fund to give a modest ceremonial ring to every new divorcee to toss off the new bridge. The kids playing below will love scrambling to look for them
Steve, the comment about the bridge has more to do with your proposal to temporary place the ice rink support facility at 10 NVA. If the bridge is saved, a good chunk of the plaza will disappear. Regarding the Post Office I believe that the proposed project could accomodate either scenario for the bridge.
“If the bridge is saved, a good chunk of the plaza will disappear.”
Excellent additional argument for a new bridge
Thanks.
Litchfield for City Council?
Awesome post! I feel totally protective of the park. I’ll never forget ditching summer school in college to go there back in 2000, and seeing all those big cement blocks and trash in the river, with bums everywhere, and signs saying to stay out of the water. We used to like *fantasize* about intertubing there like in Tahoe City.
Also, there’re are a lot of hopes and dreams in the Whitewater groups about building a wave in the new stretch instead of more holes… I picture it like this, but who knows. I don’t know much about this stuff. http://flickr.com/photos/garbs/366990060/
Wow, that would be cool, but I don’t think that would work with the plans to make it friendly to tubers and swimmers.
Here is a link to the downides of “surfing” that exact wave.
http://radiofreemike.com/nonfiction/surfing-munich-the-eisbach-gang