Nevada Blog Love
First, I want remind you that the Nevada bloggers you read most days spend a lot of time maintaining their blogs and so you should not only comment on what you read, but share it with other potential readers whenever you really like something. Its called social networking and its easy (particularly on my blog thanks to the Sociable chicklets at the end of each post) and your local bloggers will thank you for it. The more you help us spread our content, the more traffic we get, and the more we might be able to be compensated a bit more than presently.
Now for some Nevada blog love.
- My polls are way better than the Gleaners.
- Pate to Pate! That Stanely Scandalmonger cracks me up, and he’s the only person I know that uses the word “pate.” Good word!
- Desert Beacon has been on an Ensign tear lately. Check her out.
- Don’t miss this Ensign fun fact as reported by the RGJ and Sebelius. Tuesday, Ensign admitted he did it, but by Wednesday, he’s already forgotten that he had admitted it. Or did he think we don’t ready the big city papers?
- Dullard Mush has an interesting post up about journalists/ism and bloggers/ing. The problem with this discussion in general is the professional journalists and media defenders are not accounting for two developments that I think mitigate their arguments quite a bit. First, traditional news media outlets have been incorporating blogging and citizen journalism projects and methods at a fairly healthy pace, so, you know, they are becoming one of us. And second, bloggers and citizen journalists wouldn’t have a vacuum of information to fill if the vacuum of information didn’t exist. Lots of people just don’t trust traditional media to do what they always used to do, and how can you blame us when things like this keep happening? My last contribution to this particular discussion is this; why don’t bloggers and journalists have these debates at the same table? Its easy for bloggers to throw rocks at journalists from their tower and the same is true for journalists. We need to stop having the same argument and start having a dialog together. How can it be blogging vs. journalism when you can find a blog or many on just about every newspaper’s online site?
- The minx may have a few words in the LVRJ tomorrow thanks to Erin Neff.
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What about Weethump? Your online source for action, adventure and inspiration in the Wild Lands of Nevada.
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-M
weethump also has a hilarious excerpt of the Jon Ralston interview with Sierra Pacific Resources CEO Michael Yackira. This company that burns dirty (that’s right, not “clean”) coal and cuts California’s forests down, said this about the environment:
We believe that less carbon in the air is a good thing for the environment, and we are foursquare behind that.”
How in the hell do you get behind less carbon in the air by building multi-billion dollar coal plants? Somebody quick offer this guy a job as head of EPA!!
“My last contribution to this particular discussion is this; why don’t bloggers and journalists have these debates at the same table? Its easy for bloggers to throw rocks at journalists from their tower and the same is true for journalists. We need to stop having the same argument and start having a dialog together.”
Wouldn’t that be something? For starters, we could all be accountable to what we say, like journalists in newspapers and on television. Bloggers who tend to be the most abrasive in their criticism of the media, at least in this town, are (were) unknown to the public. Good luck getting journalists to take them seriously. And I have to agree. Why listen to someone afraid to own up to their words?
Its not must about anonymity or me although I assume that’s your point. Most serious bloggers aren’t anonymous and the same holds true. Obviously, I’m not just speaking of myself. Won’t it be something when I can be open about who I am? Then you’ll have to find another local anonymous blogger to use as your frequent example……hmmmmm…who fits that criteria? Its hard to come up with someone. Oh yeah, how about the blogger whose post inspired this one? Dullard Mush? Oh, wait. I think you two are friends.
Myrna, it’s not just about you. Talk to reporters–real local journalists. They’ll tell you that blogs suck because anybody can say whatever the hell they want about who they want with no consequences. You certainly fit that bill. Molly Ball ring a bell? You just happen to write about the media frequently when you criticize the most. There was another until someone figured out who he was. He was especially harsh in his criticism as well, and then people realized he wasn’t worthy of that opinion. I suspect the same could happen to you, so you don’t come clean. My point is that if you want to be especially critical, you’d better have the nerve to take the risk of the people you’re criticizing–reporters in this case. It has nothing to do with who I like and am “friends” with.
That dullard mush dude puts me to sleep.
My problem with TRAD journalism (the RGJ) is that if you’re gonna charge for your product, it shouldn’t suck. That’s why it sucks that their website is so lame.
-M
Oh, so you were lumping DM into the same category as me? Good. I’m looking forward to seeing that in action.
You can suspect all you want about my reasons for remaining anonymous (and I’m sure you do), but I’ve been pretty up front about it–I could lose my job. I even said it in print.
You must know that media criticism is a time-honored tradition of the populace. I criticize bloggers as well, and politicians, and people who write nutty letters to the editor of the RGJ. I also praise the same, but I’m guessing that isn’t as important to your point.
Its hard to take anyone seriously if the professional journalists and journalism professors are doing what Michael Skube did. Yikes. Does it really make anyone’s criticism less right if you don’t know who they are?
They funniest thing about all of this is that my original post was actually a rather logical and fairly positive minded effort. And I was speaking about one between bloggers and journalism who are each professionals in their fields. Not someone like me, duh. Obviously, I am a professional at something else. It does no good to throw the baby out with the bath water and denigrate the whole idea of the post because of some bloggers’ anonymity? Why take this discussion to a place its not necessary to go?
I know, I know! To make the same point you always make. Wake me when you’re finished again.
You seem quite interested, honestly.
Here’s the point as concisely as I can make it: You and anyone else that is anonymous on the internet and off, are ruining it for the bloggers actually worthy of sitting down with reporters. It’s a shame that you can find a list of bloggers who’ve done good journalism, like Rosen did. I saw that a month ago and thought it then, too. It’s a shame because while Rosen and people he holds up do some excellent work, print, television and other journalists do it so much you can’t find a list of what they’re doing. However, you can find a list of the horrendous journalistic deeds because that’s the rarity. Bloggers, on the other hand, routinely do horrendous deeds and therefore do not belong at the cliched big kids table. For every good deed done, there are a ton of unaccountable hacks such as yourself who remove posts they feel shame over, cry (lie?) about possibly losing their jobs (I still call bullshit on that), and don’t have to own up to it in a public forum like, say, the grocery store. I know a guy who’s been spit on because of what he wrote, and you belong nowhere near the same discussion as him. It doesn’t make you less right, that’s true, but it ruins the perception of bloggers everywhere. So before you start lobbying on behalf of “all those others” think about how you might be screwing it up for them.